I have read with great interest the Subscription model debate and would like to add my thoughts as a user of RW.
@tav as always s been very helpful and stated quite recently that RW4All “primary purpose was to provide an unencumbered channel for the smaller stacks devs to offer support to their users and act collaboratively to help people.”
I love this forum and also joeworkman’s too - why? Quite simply they are a source of knowledge, support, help and most importantly when you get stuck with something you are THERE!
I am 60+ years and have used RW since v2, I possess no coding knowledge but I run and have run an e-commerce site for over 10 years with the help of many of you on this forum. This is my retirement income, I also have two other feeder sites.
These are built with Foundation, Stacks and other goodies from the likes of tav, Webdeersign, willwood joeworkman, Marten etc etc.
So here are my views for what they are worth: There are categories of RW “users” and they fall into categories (not inclusive) e.g. developers, designers, pro users down to newbies. There have been comments on this forum that “if people don’t want to pay a subscription then give them lower grade product”, the debate has been around subscription and once all payments. Also how we can support @isaiah.
Sites like Kickstarter and others mentioned are businesses set up to make a profit so I have an idea for this forum for you to kick about! habitualshaker did an amazing job last week with his Apple mini site, he spent time, effort and used his skills that I could only dream about to achieve a project which he then gave free to the community. This made me think that there are two types of people on this forum - “The Givers” and “The Takers” i.e those that can and those that want.
For want of a better word a forum “currency” (talents) could be made where the only winners are the developers or “givers”. e.g. I want something small like a partial or a need to do something specific then I would be happy to pay to have this done. There may be 9 others (example) who may wish to have the same so a developer says he can do this for X talents - this would then be paid for by the 10 people instead of one hence costs are cut and more importantly this helps developers get some income.
I see people giving @isaiah a list of things they would like in Stacks vX.xx then they would become payable developmental tasks, shared amongst “The Takers”. When the “live” version is available these people would receive a discount on the paid for app/stack or whatever form it comes in.
I know this a bit like a subscription model but there are people who expect everything for free - life’s not like that!
I can not offer much as “user” other than payment and feedback, I do support the majority of you all by payment or donation and most importantly if I NEED something that you offer I PAY for it.
THIS IS NOT A CRITICISM but an observation- I am a world expert in my field - not IT - I was always taught at a ver early stage in my management career to do succession training - I do this very well but people have always said I’m mad - why would I train someone to do my job - the answer is simple - so I could leave it behind to go on to my next challenges knowing I was leaving behind something stable. @isaiah you are brilliant and its obvious from this forum there is a lot of love for you but god forbid you were unable to work what would happen to your Stacks development?
You have recently given me help on joeworkman site and you always make sense.
I would like to finish by stating sincerely a big THANKS to you ALL for all you do and offer it keeps me from going mad in my old age! I would not want to list the people just incase I missed one but you know who you are!
Over to you guys pull my offering apart I have rhino skin and can take criticism - but beware I can bite back! :-)